Homeless Rather Get Handouts Than Work
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A Phoenix news crew with hidden cameras went around the city to see if the homeless people would actually accept work as their cardboard signs claimed. They offered $20 to each homeless person in exchange for one hour of landscaping work.
The result is not surprising.
Homeless people would rather stand at street corners to wait for hand-outs than do actual work.
To all the people who say "if the news crew would offer more money, maybe the homeless person would leave his corner".
$20 for one hour of landscaping work is a lot of money.
Plus, don’t forget “beggars can’t be choosers”.
posted by tian at
1:03 AM
51 Comments:
wow $20 an hour?!? I only get paid $5.50 an hour.. I have to work over 3 and a half hours to make $20!
I agree, $20/hr is excellent pay. The homeless people that were offered this and did not accept are just losers and probably deserve their lot.
I'm just guessing. . . perhaps the beggars get more than 20 bucks per hour for sitting in some corner of the city?
According to the news program, some beggars gets between $100 to $200 per day at a busy street corner.
Compare that to most Mexican day-labors would get $50 for 8-hours of work.
maybe if they were offered a full time job they would take it! 20 bucks for an hour of hard labour is not that much when it is a one off and afterwards you get to return to streets and sleep on the side walk!!!
If you're in dire need for money I'm sure you're not thinking: "They're playing with my emotions here." Although not everyone, most get what they deserve.
Apparently "beggars CAN be choosers".
Fuck the homeless.
Makes you wonder, doesn't it? Did they say how many people they spoke to? I wonder if it was a true assessment. If the homeless earn so much more on street corners, I think I'll start hanging around with a sign. There was a tv programme on Oz-tv interviewing homeless and a few actually admitted it was a better life than working. Perhaps they should be moved on if they won't accept work.
Now is that 20.00 before or after Taxes?
If the offer of $20 had been accepted, they might have missed out on the money (shurely over $20) that panhandling would have drawn. Fight the power, you wacky hobos!
The others are typical, but I was really touched by the guy that did do work. They should have given him a bonus.
I know of a guy named Asif Zamir in Toronto Canada who had done something similar with some friends. Offering $20 / hour (Canadian $) for some general labour including office work, including full training and transportation. This was for full time work, but most of the people a.) Didn't show up b.) Were intoxicated when the showed up c.) showed up but didn't do any work.
On the other hand, there was a *tiny* percentage that showed up on time, did good work and ended up working long term.
So I think it's still worth it to give them a chance to show up.
Taking that job has an opportunity cost, so if you can make more on the street it makes economic sense to stay there. Selling a bike is one example of that.
The $100 to $200 a day thing is really high-end. A friend of mine from high school at age 18 panhandled in the Florida Keys to see what he could make. He was making amounts like that because he was polite, young, and people didn't think he was a totally lost cause. Someone old, rude, agressive, or insane wouldn't be doing very well at all.
Also, let's face it. Your average homeless person isn't an ideal job candidate. You can't get a job without an address. They might be well past their prime, be in physically or mentally poor shape, and not have any marketable skills.
Do they "deserve their lot?" If you think they do "deserve it" should we allow people to live and die on the streets?
Fact is, if I was homeless, I would stand in a bucket of crap for an hour if you'd give me $20. That's a days food money with something left over.
I WANT TO EXPRESS THAT THIS IS NOT AN OPINION IT’S A TRUE ACCOUNT OF MY EXPERIENCES.
FOR 8 YEARS I HAVE BEEN ON A QUEST TO FIND A NICE PLACE TO LIVE AND NOW I AM FACED WITH THE CHOICE OF COLD WEATHER AND BUMS OR WARM WEATHER AND BUMS, UNFORTUNATELY THERE WERE NO ALTERNATIVES THAT DID NOT INCLUDE BUMS, DRUNKS, DRUG ADDICTS, CRACK HEADS,VAGRANTS, HOMELESS, PANHANDLERS OR WHATEVER THEY ARE CALLING THEMSELVES.
WHY DOES ALL THE SYMPATHY AND UNDERSTANDING GO TO THE DRUNK, DRUGGED OUT AND CON ARTIST HOMELESS COMMUNITY, WHY NO SYMPATHY FOR ME?
ABOUT ME, I AM A NATIVE CALIFORNIAN, I AM A WOMAN, I AM A MINORITY. I GIVE TO CHARITIES.I HAVE VOLUNTEERED IN HOMELESS SHELTERS, I USE TO SPEAK, ONE ON ONE TO THE HOMELESS ABOUT THEIR SITUATION. I WAS RAISED TO TREAT PEOPLE EQUALLY.I’M TRADITIONALY A DEMOCRATE BUT I AM NOW ONLY WILLING TO SUPPORT CANDIDATES THAT ARE AGAINST THE PROGRAMS THAT ENABLE THIS BEHAVIOR.
WHY DO WE CONTINUE TO APOLOGIZE FOR GENTRIFICATION, RENOVATION AND THE REVITALIZATION OF NEIGBORHOODS? WE PAID FOR IT YET THE HOMELESS ORGANIZATIONS MAKE US FEEL GUILTY. WE PAY THOUSANDS TO LIVE IN MAJOR CITIES AND THEY PAY NOTHING AND WANT THE SAME PRIVILIGES. TO MAKE IT WORST THEY ASK US FOR MONEY IN FEARFUL FACE TO FACE ENCOUNTERS AND MAKE US PAY THROUGH TAXES AND MANY OTHER WAYS.
DRUNKENESS, DRUG ABUSE AND VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ARE NOT DISEASES THEY ARE CHOICES. I COULD HAVE BEEN A DRUNK, I COULD HAVE USED DRUGS AND I COULD HAVE STAYED WITH AN ABUSIVE SPOUSE. I HAVE BEEN EXPOSED TO ALL OF THESE SITUATIONS. THE CHOICES ARE EVIDENT AND MOST OF US DID NOT MAKE THOSE WRONG CHOICES AND IF WE DID, WE RECOGNIZED SOON ENOUGH TO CORRECT THE MISTAKE BEFORE SLIPPING INTO A HELLISH EXISTANCE. THESE PEOPLE MAKE THE WRONG CHOICES FOR DECADES AND THEY WANT YOU TO PAY, THEY HOLD US RESPONSIBLE AND ATTACK ANYONE THAT HAS THEIR LIFE TOGETHER.
WHAT I’VE HEARD
I HEAR THE HOMELESS ADVOCATES VOICING THEIR VISION OF THE FUTURE? TO HAVE FULL ACCESS TO ALL STREETS, PARKS, BEACHES, LIBRARIES ETC. TO DEFECATE, UNINATE, SLEEP, CAMP, HAVE SEX AND BE DRUNK IN THE STREETS FOR AN UNLIMITED PERIOD OF TIME? TO KEEP DEVELOPERS OUT SO NO NEW BUILDINGS ARE BUILT AND THEY CAN COMFORTABLY SLEEP IN FRONT OLD BOARDED UP DELAPEDATED DUMPS?
IF SO, WHERE CAN THE NORMAL PEOPLE GO? THE ANSWER IS… NOWHERE. WHEREVER EVER WE GO, THEY FOLLOW. THEY CAN’T LIVE WITH EACH OTHER, SO THEY MUST LIVE WITH US OR THEY WILL NOT SURVIVE.
I HEAR HOMELESS ORGANIZATIONS HAVE STARTED TREATING HOMELESS SITUATIONS AS A LIFE CHOICE. WITH NO QUESTIONS ASKED, WE’RE SUPPOSE TO HELP THEM TO MAINTAIN HOMELESSNESS AND JUST PROVIDE HOUSING WHEN THEY’RE TIRED OF WALKING THE STREETS AND FOOD WHEN THEIR HUNGRY.
THEY HAVE DECIDED TO MAKE THEMSELVES A PERMANENT GROUP AND PEOPLE WITH HOMES ARE THEIR ENEMY.
I THOUGHT THESE ORGANIZATIONS WERE SUPPOSE TO HELP PEOPLE TO FIND JOBS AND HOUSING.
I HEAR PEOPLE SUPPORTING THE CONTINUATION OF GIVING MONEY, BEDS,HEALTH CARE AND THE STOPPAGE OF TICKETS FOR OFFENCES.I JUST CAN’T BELIEVE ANYONE STILL BELIEVES IN THIS FAILED APPROACH.WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE THAT SUPPORT CAMPING AND PUBLIC DEFECATION? MAYBE THEY HAVE A HIGH TOLORANCE FOR FILTH.
I HEAR IT’S POLITALLY INCORRECT TO WE SPEAK OUT AGAINST THEM. IF YOU DO YOU ARE DEEMED HEARTLESS, ANTI-HOMELESS AND RACIST SO OUR WORDS, LETTERS, BILLBOARDS ETC.ARE RIDICULED, BANNED AND TAKEN DOWN.
WE HAVE NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH WITH THIS GROUP.
THAT DOES NOT SOUND LIKE HOPELESS, HELPLESS OR POWERLESS. THEY OBVIOUSLY HAVE A LOT OF SUPPORT OR ELSE ALL OF THE MISSIONS, DETOX CENTERS AND HOMELESS HANGOUT HOTELS, SOUP LINES WOULD NOT KEEP TRYING TO RUIN OUR COMMUNITIES WITH THEIR PRESENCE.
I HEAR ABOUT THE ATTACKS ON DEVELOPERS, UNBELEIVABLE. IF DEVELOPERS TAKE A VALUABLE PROPERTY AND BUILD NEW CONDOS ON IT AND CHARGE TO GOING RATE IT’S THEIR RIGHT IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO MAKE A PROFIT, IT’S CALLED BUSINESS. THE HOMELESS THINK EVERY BUILDING SHOULD BE A CHARITY ORGANIZATION WITH FREE RENT. IF YOU CAN’T PAY THE GOING RATE GO ELSEWARE. IF I CAN NOT AFFORD 5000.00 AMONTH RENT ,GUESS WHAT, I CAN LIVE IN THAT APARTMENT. I DON’T EXPECT TO MAKE ANYONE FEEL SO GUILTY THAT THEY GIVE ME THE APARTMENT FOR FREE.
I HEAR 40 YEAR OLD DRUNKS SAYING THAT THEY ARE VIETNAM VETS. THIS IS A SCAM. VETS ARE 60+ AND ARE GETTING THE BULK OF SUPPORT FROM THE GOVERNMENT NOT HANDOUTS IN THE STREET.
I HEAR THE ARGUMENT THAT IF WE DON’T GIVE THE HOMELESS FREE SHELTER AND FOOD THEY WILL RIOT AND ROB. I THOUGHT THIS COUNTRY HAD A POSITION OF NOT CAVING IN TO TREATS OF ATTACK AND TERROR.THE POLICE WILL HAVE TO GET INVOLVED TO STOP THEIR DRUNKEN “ATTACKS”. I OFTEN HEAR COMMENTS FROM PANHANDLERS STATING THAT “THIS IS BETTER THAN KILLING AND ROBBING”. THANKS FOR NOT KILLING ME.
I HEAR THE COMPARISONS TO JESUS AND I AM APPAULED. HOW DARE CITIZENS NAME THESE BUMS JESUS.
AS FOR BEING HOMELESS, NOT MANY PEOPLE LIVED IN THE SUBURBS WITH TWO CAMEL GARAGES.PEOPLE WERE OFTEN NOMADIC IN THOSE DAYS HIS PARENTS MAY HAVE BEEN BETWWEN HOMES AT THE TIME OF HIS BIRTH BUT JESUS OWNED A HOME IN THE CITY OF CAPERNAUM SEE MARK 2:1 IN THE BIBLE, THE GREEK TRANSLATION FOR HOME IS (OIKOS) HE WAS ALSO A SKILLED CARPENER AND TRADESMAN.
BUMS SHOULD STOP USING JESUS TO JUSTIFY THEMSELVES.
JESUS HAD A MESSAGE OF LOVE AND HOPE. HE DID NOT BEG IN THE STREETS AND WAS NOT KNOWN TO BE A DRUG ADDICT OR ALCOHOLIC.
LONG HAIR DOES NOT MAKE YOU JESUS.
I HEAR THAT ANYONE CAN BE HOMELESS AND OF COURSE THAT’S TRUE. HOMELESSNESS FROM NATURAL DISASTER OR UNEXPECTED LIFE CHANGES IS POSSIBLE BUT VAGRANTS ARE HOMELESS BECAUSE THEY ARE DRUNK, DRUGGED OR CON MEN. THE PEOPLE THAT REALLY DESERVE HELP ARE NOT ABLE TO GET IT BECAUSE OF THESE PERSISTANT BUMS.
I HEAR THAT MOST OF THE HOMELESS PEOPLE ARE IN AVERAGE AGE 9 YEARS OLD. YET ANOTHER SCAM TO HIDE DRUNKS AND DRUG ABUSERS BEHIND CHILDREN. IF THIS WERE TRUE, I WOULD HAVE BEEN ASKED FOR MONEY BY MOSTLY YOUNG PEOPLE INSTEAD IT’S BEEN 40+ YEAR OLD MEN AND SOME WOMEN ALL DRUNK AND DRUGGED. WHERE ARE ALL OF THE 9 YEAR OLD HOMELESS PEOPLE?
I HEAR THAT A LOT OF SENIORS ARE BEING MADE HOMELESS AS RENTS GO UP IN. I FEEL VERY SAD ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND HOPE THAT SENIOR HOUSING WILL BE INCREASED FOR NORMAL SENIORS NOT DRUNKS.
IN THIS ECOMOMY IT’S NOT POSSIBLE TO REALLY RETIRE. IF YOU WORK ON A JOB THAT ALLOWS YOU TO RETIRE ON A PENSION AND YOU ADD SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS TO THAT IT MAY NOT KEEP UP WITH THE RENT INCREASES OR IN THE EVENT OF THE BUILDING BEING SOLD, RENOVATED OR TURNED INTO CONDOS.PERHAPS YOU NEED TO KEEP WORKING. IF YOU LIVE IN AN APARTMENT THEY WILL RAISE THE RENT IT SHOULD NOT COME AS A SURPRISE.
MY FATHER LIVED IN AN APARTMENT IN SANTA MONICA FOR 30+ YEARS WHEN HE DIED IN THE 90”S HIS RENT WAS 175.00 THIS IS NOT NORMAL.
I HEAR THE HOMELESS ADVOCATES STATING ALL OF THE RIGHTS THAT THEY ARE ENTITLED TO.
FREE FOOD.
THE REST OF US HAVE TO PAY.
FREE HOUSING.
NOT JUST ANY HOUSING BUT IN THE AREAS THAT THEY HANG OUT IN WHICH JUST HAPPENS TO BE IN THE MOST EXPENSIVE EXCLUSIVE AREAS IN THE WORLD.
THEY ALSO FEEL THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO LIVE IN A SAFE ENVOIRONMENT.
I KNOW HARD WORKING PEOPLE THAT DON’T LIVE IN SAFE NEIGHBORHOODS.
FREE HEALTHCARE MANY HARD WORKING PEOPLE CAN NOT AFFORD HEALTH CARE SO HOW CAN THEY EXPECT TO RECEIVE ALL OF THESE SERVICES FOR FREE?
SPECIAL LAWS AND COURTS DESIGNED TO ALLOW THEIR OFFENSES TO GO UNPUNISHED. THEY EVEN WANT THEIR TICKETS FOR FREE, WE HAVE TO PAY OUR LEGAL FINES AND THEY DON’T.
IT’S THIS ADDITUDE THAT CAUSES THE PROBLEM.
I HEAR THE HOMELESS ARE TREATED WORST THAN ANIMALS. WELL THEY BEHAVE WORST THAN ANIMALS. WE DON’T ALLOW ANIMALS TO BEHAVE THIS WAY AND TICKETS ARE ISSUED TO PEOPLE THAT DON’T CLEAN UP AFTER THEIR PETS.OUR PETS ARE ALLOWED TO LIVE WITH US FOR FREE BECAUSE IN MOST CASES THEY CAN NOT WORK AND EARN THEIR KEEP. THE REASON WE KEEP THEM FED AND WARM IS BECAUSE PETS PROVIDE LOVE SUPPORT AND BRING GOOD FEELINGS TO THE THEIR FAMILY.
DRUNKS BRING GUILT, DEPRESSION, DESPAIR, FILTH, VIOLENCE, PROSTITUTION, DRUGS AND CRIMES OF ALL KINDS. IF THEY ARE REALLY BETTER THAN ANIMALS, AS HUMANS THEY SHOULD NOT WANT TO DO PRIVATE THINGS IN PUBLIC.
I HEAR THAT MENTAL ILLNESS IS PART OF THE PROBLEM, THIS IS A HUGE SCAM. IT’S NOT AN ACCIDENT THAT CALIFORNIA HAS BEEN RUINED BY THESE PEOPLE THEY ARE THERE FOR THE WEATHER AND HIGHER WELFARE PAYOUTS. THEY LIVE NEAR POPULATED, POPULAR AREAS WHERE TOURIST CAN KEEP FEEDING THEIR HABITS. IF THEY WERE REALLY MENTALLY ILL THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO NEGOIATE A LIFE ON THE STREET.OBVIOUSLY THEY MAKE ENOUGH MONEY TO KEEP LIVING DECADE AFTER DECADE OFF OF THE STREETS LIKE PARASITES. SOME ARE SLIGHTLY MENTALLY ILL BUT NOT ENOUGH TO BE FED AND HOUSED FOR FREE, FOREVER. BELIEVE ME EVERY BUM LIVING IN A COLD CLIMATE WANTS TO BE IN A WARM CLIMATE SO THE BEHAVIOR CAN CONTINUE IN A MORE COMFORTABLE ENVIRONMENT. THIS EFFORT TO MOVE TO A BETTER PLACE COMES BEFORE ANY EFFORT TO CLEAN UP HIS OR HER LIFE. MENTAL ILLNESS OR CRAZY LIKE A FOX?
I HEAR ADVOCATES SAYING THAT THE HOMELESS PEOPLE THAT TALK AND SCREAM TO THEMSELVES ARE HARMLESS. WHAT RIGHT DO THESE PEOPLE HAVE TO DO A MENTAL ASSESSMENT OF THEM, I REJECT THE NOTION THAT THEY ARE HARMLESS.
I WAS LOOKING AT THE REGISTERED SEX OFFENDERS IN THE DOWNTOWN SAN DIEGO AREA AND SOME OF THE SAME FACES SHOWED UP AS LOCAL HOMELESS THEY ALSO LIVE IN HOMELESS HOTELS LOOK IT UP ON MEGANSLAW.CA.GOV AND COMPARE THE SEX OFFENDER FACES TO THE DRUNKS, DRUGGIES AND BUMS WALKING AROUND AND CHECK OUT THE HOTEL AND HALFWAY HOUSE ADDRESSES. IF THESE PEOPLE ARE SO HARMLESS WHY DO THEY NEED SECURITY AND HAVE TO MAKE PROMISES TO THE POLICE THAT THEY WILL CONTROL THE DRUNKS LOITERING AROUND THEIR BUILDINGS.
FOR TO LONG WE HAVE BEEN FORCED TO SACRAFICE THE SAFETY OF OUR CHILDERN JUST SO BUMS CAN LIVE IN NEIGHBORHOOD CHURCHES, HOSPITALS, MISSIONS AND HALFWAY HOUSES TIME AND TIME AGAIN CHILDERN HAVE BEEN HARRASSED, MOLESTED AND MURDERED WHEN THESE BUILDINGS HAVE BEEN IN THEIR LOCATION. THESE PROGRAMS DO NOT WORK. THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ON THE STREETS FOR DECADES. IN AND OUT OF SO CALLED “PROGRAMS” BUMS AND BUM HELPING AGENCIES HAVE BECOME MOBILE GHETTOS. WHERE EVER THEY GO BECOMES AND INSTANT SLUM.
I HEAR THE REPORTS OF VIOLENCE AGAINST BUMS. AFTER READING MY PERSONAL ENCOUNTERES YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY BRING THE VIOLENCE ON THEMSELVES.
PERSONAL ENCOUNTERS THAT I AND MY FRIENDS HAVE EXPERIENCED IN NY, MOST OF CALIFORNIA, HAWAII, EUROPE AND A FEW PLACES IN BETWEEN.
RESTAURANTS:
CAFES WITH SIDEWALK TABLES: RUNIED BECAUSE THE SIDEWALKS ARE TO CLOSE TO THE BUMS.
WE PAY TO GO TO RESTAURANTS DOWNTOWN AND WE BUY CONDOS TO LIVE IN THE AREA WE WANT TO DANCE IN THE CLUBS AND ENJOY NIGHTLIFE. WE EACH PAY FOR THE PRIVILAGE WHY SHOULD ANYONE NOT HAVE TO PAY ? THEY PUNISH US FOR WORKING AND PAYING TO LIVE FOR OUR KEEP BY LOOKING HORRIBLE ASKING US FOR MONEY WHILE WERE TRYING TO CHOKE DOWN OUR DINNER. I DON’T WANT TO GIVE A LICE INFESTED BUM ANYTHING WHILE I’M EATING.
SIDEWALKS:
BLOCKING THE SIDEWALK TO FORCE A HANDOUT.
WHEN I’M WALKING IN PUBLIC: EVERYTIME I STOP TO DO ANYTHING SOME BUM IS SPYING ON ME, WATCHING ME, STALKING MY EVERY MOVE AND SIZING ME UP AS A PERSON THAT WOULD GIVE A HANDOUT. I AM KIND AND I HAVE A KIND FACE THIS IS WHY I LOOK LIKE A GOOD VICTIM FOR THE SCAM. I KNOW I HAVE TO KEEP WALKING FAST TO BE LEFT ALONE, THE MOMENT I STOP I’M INTERACTING WITH A BUM.
PARKS:
I F I TRY TO SIT ON THE GRASS IN THE PARK TO EACH LUNCH, WITHIN 5 MINUTES SOME TATTERED BUM IS HOVERING OVER MY FOOD BEGGING.
POST OFFICES:
PANHANDLING IN FRONT OF THE P.O.BECAUSE OF THE HIGH TRAFFIC.
CONVENIECE STORES:
BETTER THAN POST OFFICES BECAUSE THEY HAVE HIGH TRAFFIC AND ALCOHOL.
I ONCE STOOD BEHIND A WHEELCHAIR BOUND BUM IN FRONT OF 7-11 CONVENIENCE STORE HE WAS TELLING ANOTHER BUM, THAT HE MADE 8 DOLLARS AN HOUR. HE ADDED THAT IF HE BROUGHT HIS CHILDREN, HE COULD MAKE MORE. WAS HE REALLY WHEELCHAIR BOUND?
SAN FRANCISO REPORTS THAT UPWARDS OF 40 THOUSAND A YEAR CAN BE MADE PANHADELING ALL DAY. THIS EXPLAINS THE ABILITY TO BUY ALCOHOL, DRUGS, CIGARETTES (VERY EXPENSIVE) AND FOOD FOR DECADES
GROCERY STORES:
A HIGH TRAFFIC AREA AND PEOPLE OFTEN HAVE CHANGE.
I WAS TRYING TO ENTER A STORE IN EAST HOLLYWOOD, WHEN A CHUNK OF STUCCO FROM A PILLAR HIT ME AND MY MOM IN THE HEAD AND FACE. AFTER LOOKING UP TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON , IT WAS A CRAZED BUM WITH A HEAVY CHAIN , HE WAS VIOLENTLY SWINGING IT ABOVE HIS HEAD AND BREAKING APART THE PILLARS SUPPORTING THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
ONCE ON A GROCERY STORE PARKING LOT, I GAVE A BUM A QUARTER. HE TOOK THE QUARTER AND THEW IT TO THE GROUND SAYING “WHAT THE F**K CAN I BUY WITH THIS”. HIS VERBAL ATTACK CAUSED MY FRIEND TO BECOME VERY ANGRY WITH HIM, IT ALMOST ERUPTED IN VIOLENCE.
ON THAT SAME LOT A FEW WEEKS LATER A BUM ASKED ME FOR MONEY AND I IGNORED HIM, HE CALLED ME A RACIAL SLUR. THE LAST TIME I WAS ON THAT LOT A FEW MONTHS LATER, I IGNORED A BUM AND I WAS CALLED A BITCH.
ATM MACHINES AND BANKS:
HIGH TRAFFIC AND YOU CAN’T SAY YOU DON’T HAVE MONEY.
PUBLIC SPACES:
NEW YORK HAS SOME BEAUTFUL ATRIUM, WATERFALL, FOUNTAIN AND PLANT FILLED BUILDINGS. THESE HAVE BE COLONIZED BUY BUMS. AGAIN SINCE THEY SLEEP ON AND SOIL ALL OF THE BENCHES, I DON’T WANT TO SIT DOWN, THEY ALSO INTIMIDATE YOU IF YOU TRY TO SIT ANYWHERE NEAR THEM. THE PURPOSE OF THESE BUILDINGS WAS SO PEOPLE COULD REST, RELAX AND EAT BETWEEN SHOPPING TRIPS.
GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS:
HIGH TRAFFIC AREAS GREAT FOR BEGGING.
I HAD TO VISIT DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES WITH MY BOYFRIEND HE NEEDED A BIRTH CERTIFICATE THAT DAY FOR A NEW JOB. THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE WAS OBTAINED IN 15 MINUTES BUT ON OUR WAY BACK WE SAW 2 BUMS UNDER A CARDBOARD BOX HAVING SEX ECK… WHEN WE NEARED OUR VEHICLE A BUM GRABBED MY ANKLE BEGGING FOR MONEY. I HAD TO DRAG HIM DOWN THE STREET. ONCE WE REACHED THE VEHICLE MY BOYFRIEND DISCOVERED HIS WORK VAN WAS BROKEN INTO AND ALL OF HIS WORK TOOLS STOLEN. NEEDLESS TO SAY HE COULD NOT GET THE JOB.
MUSEUMS:
HIGH TRAFFIC AREAS GREAT FOR BEGGING. THANKFULLY, I HAVE NOT SEEN THEM SLEEPING UNDER A VAN GOGH.
AMUSEMENT PARKS:
THEY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE HIGH TRAFFIC AND PEOPLE ARE USUALLY IN A GOOD MOOD.
LIBRARIES:
IN VENTURA, CA THE LIBRARY BECAME A BUM HANGOUT AND VERY DANGEROUS. THE LIBRARY ALLOWED AT LEAST 30-40 BUMS AT A TIME TO SIT AND SOMETIMES UNINATE IN THE SEATS. THE STENCH WAS UNBEARBLE. AFTER MY RESEACH I FOUND THAT EVERY MAJOR CITY HAS HAD SIMILAR PROBLEMS WITH THE LIBRARIES BEING USED TO DEFECATE, UNINATE AND THE LIBRARY BATHROOMS ARE USED FOR DRUG ABUSE AND IN RARE INSTANCES THEY USE THE BATHROOM TO CLEAN UP.
WHEN THEY ARE ASKED TO LEAVE, THEY SUE. ONE MAN WAS AWARDED 230,000 IN NEW JERSEY AND THEN THE SAME MAN WON 150,000 FOR BEING KICKED OFF OF THE SUBWAY FOR THE SAME REASON. ANOTHER MAN WON 80,000 FOR BEING ASKED TO LEAVE THE LIBRARY. I’M SURE THERE ARE MORE LAWSUITS I’VE MISSED AND MORE ON THE WAY.
MY RIGHTS AGAIN WERE VIOLATED. UNLESS I LEARNED TO HOLD MY BREATH FOR 2 HOURS I CAN NOT VISIT THE LIBRARY. THE LIBRARIANS ARE POWERLESS.
CARS:
ON CERTAIN STREETS, I CAN BE TRAPPED BY SQUEEGY WIEDING BUMS INSISTING ON GRABBING MY WINDSHILED WIPERS AND SPRAYING MY WINDOW. WITH A BUM IN FRONT OF MY CAR AND A WET WINDSHIELD, IT’S A BIT HARD TO DRIVE.
LAUNDRY MATS:
ONCE YOU FIND OUT THE TABLE YOU’RE FOLDING YOUR CLOTHES ON WAS A BUM BEDROOM AND THAT THEY POSSIBLEY PUT THEIR LICE INFESTED CLOTHES IN THE WASHERS AND DRYERS, THERE IS NO WAY YOUR CLOTHES CAN BE CLEAN.
PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION:
TRAIN AND BUS STATIONS:
IN MY OPINION THEY SOIL ALL OF THE SEATS. IF YOU SEE ONE SITTING OR LYING IN ONE SEAT, THERE’S A CHANCE THAT ANOTHER ONE HAS SAT ON THE SEAT YOU’RE PLANNING TO SIT ON.
BRACE YOURSELF
ONCE ON THE SUBWAY IN NEW YORK A MAN WAS DIGGING IN HIS BUTT, REMOVING PIECES OF FECES AND SMELLING HIS FINGERS. I HAVE NOT VOMITED SINCE I WAS 7 YEARS OLD AND IT’S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO VOMIT, I HAD TO HOLD THE VOMIT IN FOR ABOUT AN HOUR. THAT’S NOT HE END OF THE STORY, THE BUM STARTED HEADING TOWARD A PASSENGER ON THE TRAIN ATTEMPTING TO TOUCH HIM. THE PASSENGER STOOD UP PULLED OUT A GUN AND PROMISED TO KILL HIM IF HE TOUCHED HIM OR DUG IN HIS BUTT AGAIN. THE BUM REPLIED IN A MOST INDIGENT MANNER THAT IT WAS HIS RIGHT .AGAIN THE PASSENGER COULD HAVE KILLED HIM AND INJURED OTHER PEOPLE, THESE PEOPLE ARE PROVOKING VIOLENCE FROM EVERYONE. MY FRIEND HAS TWICE SPOTTED THE SAME BUM, IN THE SAME CONDITION ALMOST 10 YEARS LATER. THIS MEANS THAT HE HAS BEEN RIDING NEW YORK SUBWAYS SMEARING FECES ON STAIRWAY RAILINGS, SUBWAY RAILINGS AND SEATS FOR AT LEAST 10 YEARS. PERHAPS HE WAS IN THE SEAT YOUR ABOUT TO SIT ON. THIS SAME BEHAVIOR HAS BEEN REPORTED IN EVERY MAJOR CITY AND BEYOND.
BENCHES: THERE ARE ALWAYS LARGE POPULATIONS OF PEOPLE WAITING FOR PUBLIC TRANSPORTAION.GREAT PLACES FOR BUMS TO LOITER.
BUS, TRAIN AND SUBWAY BENCHES ARE NOW BUM BEDS WE CAN’T SIT WHILE WAITING FOR PUBLIC TRANSPORTAION EITHER BECAUSE THEY’RE SLEEPING OR SITTING ON THE BENCH OR BECAUSE IT’S SOILED FROM WHEN THEY SAT OR SLEPT ON IT.
PUBLIC RESROOMS:
RESTROOMS ARE ALREADY SUSPECT BUT MUCH WORST WHEN PEOPLE ARE DOING DRUGS AND WASHING UP IN THE SINKS.
STORES:
ANY STORE AT ANY TIME CAN HAVE A DRUNKEN BUM PARKED ON THE STEPS. SOME PEOPLE JUST STEP OVER THEM, I PREFER TO SHOP AT STORES THAT AGGRESSIVELY REMOVE THEM.
I KNOW MERCHANTS ARE LOSING BUSINESS AND DON’T WANT THEM THERE. I BELIEVE THEY ARE SCARED. WHY ELSE WOULD THEY TOLERATE IT.?
PUBLIC FOUNTAINS:
MANY REPORTED CASES OF FOUNTAINS BEING USED TO DEFECATE, UNINATE AND BATH IN. THE OFFICIALS HAD TO FENCE AND LOCK THE FOUNTAIN AREA TO KEEP THE BUMS OUT.
HOTEL LOBBIES:
I’VE SEEN BUMS TRYING TO PRETEND THEY’RE GUEST BUT IT DOES NOT TAKE LONG FOR THE DESK PERSON TO SMELL THAT THEY’RE NOT CUSTOMERS.
COFFEE SHOPS:
STARBUCKS: THEY LOVE IT. AFTER BEGGING US FOR 10 MINUTES THEY HAVE PLENTY TO BUY THEMSELVES A CAFÉ LATTE THEN GO IN THE BATHROOM AND STAY FOR AN HOUR. THIS HAPPENED TO ME IN NEW YORK. THE LINE WAS OUT OF THE DOOR WHEN WE ARRIVED AND THE MANAGER SAID THAT THE BUM HAD BEEN IN THERE AN HOUR AND SHE WAS PLANNING TO CALL THE POLICE.
CHURCHES MISSIONS AND FREE EVENTS:
LOITERING AROUND FEEDING HOLES LIKE MISSIONS, CHURCHES AND EVENTS OFFERING FREE FOOD. THE WORD ON THE STREET FASTER THAN A CELL PHONE WHEN IT COMES TO KNOWING WERE THEY’RE GIVING AWAY ANYTHING. A CHURCH IN FLORIDA HAS A DILEMA. THE CHURCH AND SOME PRIVATE MEMBERS GIVE FOOD TO HELP THE HOMELESS IN THE NEARBY PARK, OF COURSE THAT MAKES THE BUMS THINK IF THEY GO IN THE CHURCH THERE WILL BE MORE FREEBYS. THE CHURCH HAS A PRESCHOOL AND WANTS TO KEEP IT SAFE , HOW CAN THEY LET THESE FOUL SMELLING PEOPLE OF DUBIOUS BACKGROUNDS IN THE CHURCH NEAR NORMAL PARISHONERS AND THEIR CHILDERN.. IF THE CHURCH IS OPEN TO EVERYONE, SOON THE EVRYONE WILL BE ONLY THE BUMS AND SINCE THEY ONLY TAKE, THE CHURCH WOULD NOT GET THE DONATIONS IT NEEDS TO KEEP OPERATING. THE CHURCH HAS HAD TO POST NO TRESPASSING SIGNS.
IN SAN DIEGO THEY HAVE ALREADY BEGUN RUINING THE NEWLY REJUVENATED LITTLE ITALY BY PLACING A BUM HANGOUT CALLED THE SD RESCUE MISSION NEAR SCHOOLS AND RESIDENTAL NEIGHBORHOODS. THERE HAVE BEEN COMPLAINTS ABOUT BUMS HANGING AROUND THE SCHOOL. AS USUAL THE POWERS THAT BE IGNORE OUR CONCERNS SO PEOPLE THAT DON’T CONTRIBUTE ANYTHING CAN BE ACCOMADATED AND SATISFIED. AS USUAL THE MISSION COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THE QUALITY OF PEOPLE THEIR DRAGGING INTO THE AREA AND OF COURSE DENY THERE IS A PROBLEM. ONCE AGAIN ANOTHER AREA IS IN DANGER OF RUIN. IT’S NOT A VERY CHRISTIAN ATTITUDE TO MAKE A COMMUNITY UNSAFE TO HELP PEOPLE THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN HELPED AND NEVER WILL BE. THERE HAVE BEEN COUNTLESS ORGANIZATIONS THAT HELP THE HOMELESS OR ENABLE THEM TO REMAIN HOMELESS.
BRIDGES OVERPASSES:
MANY BRIDGES AND ROADS: HAVE BEEN SET ON FIRE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE AND OTHER STATES BECAUSE BUMS ARE TRYING TO LIVE UNDER THEM AND BURN FIRES ALL NIGHT.
PRIVATE HOMES, CONDOS AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS.
THE POLICE ARE CONSTANTLY BEING CALLED TO SWEEP BUMS THE FROM IN FRONT OF RESIDENCES.
IN SUTTON PLACE, IN NEW YORK A BUM SITS ON THE STEPS OF ONE OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE BUILDINGS AROUND, HE SAYS HE DOES NOT WANT HOUSING HE JUST WANTS FREE HANDOUTS AND A PLACE TO SIT ALL DAY. THIS IS NOT THE WAY PEOPLE LIVE IN A CIVILIZED COMMUNITY.
THE WOODS:
PERMANENT “CAMPERS” INFEST THE WOODS MAKING FAMILY OUTTINGS DANGEROUS. A FRIEND OF MINE RETURNED FROM A CAMPING TRIP AND TOLD ME HE WAS 100% SURE HE WOULD HAVE BE MURDERED IF HE DID NOT HAVE HIS DOG. A HOMELESS MAN APPROACHED HIM IN HIS TENT ASKING FOR MONEY. HE SAID HE DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING. THE MAN STARTED ASKING IF HE WAS ALONE, MY FRIEND LIED AND SAID THAT HE WAS WITH OTHERS, THE MAN LOOKED AROUND AND STARED OPENING AND CLOSING A SMALL POCKET KNIFE. AFTER A FEW TENSE MINUTES HE WENT AWAY.MY FRIEND DROVE BACK HOME IMMEADIATLY AND HAS NEVER CAMPED AGAIN AFTER DECADES OF ENJOYING CAMPING.
VACATION SPOTS:
HIGH TRAFFIC AREAS, PEOPLE ARE USUALLY RELAXED AND IN A GOOD MOOD AND YOUR GUARD IS DOWN.
OUR LOVELY BEACHES AROUND THE WORLD ARE NOW BUM HAVENS.
BEGGING, AND BOTHERING PEOPLE AS THEY TRY TO ENJOY THEMSELVES. I WAS LAYING IN THE SUN READING A BOOK, ALL OF A SUDDEN
A SHADOW WAS CAST, AS A TALL YOUNG MAN STARTED ASKING ME ABOUT GOD, I SAID NO THANKS INSTEAD OF LEAVING HE WAS JOINED BY HIS GIRLFRIEND WHO HELPED IN THE CAMPAIGN TO CONVERT ME. THEY WERE BOTH DRUNK AND DIRTY. I STARTED GATHERING MY THINGS WHEN A GUY SHOWED UP TO DEFEND ME HE GOT INTO A VERY VIOLENT ARGUMENT WITH THE COUPLE. I QUIETLY SLIPPED AWAY. MORE VIOLENCE WAS INSPIRED.
WHILE VISITING THE FRENCH RIVIERA WE SAW THE SAME BUMMY WOMAN PRETENDING TO BE A BEACH GOER, TRUE IT WAS DONE WITH MORE CLASS BUT THE PROBLEM IS STILL PRESENT.
I’VE SEEN THEM IN LAS VEGAS BEING MOVED AWAY BY THE POLICE. THIS GAVE LAS VEGAS THE MEANIST CITY AWARD, WHY BECAUSE THEY WANT TOURIST TO BE SAFE WHILE VACATIONING. THEY THINK EVERYBODY IS A HIGH ROLLER AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOUR GOOD MOOD ON VACATION TO BEG.
IN HAWAII PARKS FILLED WITH SLEEPING BUMS AND THE CARIBBEAN ISLANDS BUMS ,BUMS, BUMS AND THEY WILL STAB YOU IF YOU GO DOWN THE WRONG ALLEY.
I VISITED OHIO WHERE THEY ARE OPENLY LIVING IN THE TRAIN STATIONS.
ATLANTA WAS ON THE RISE, IT’S SO SAD THAT WITH THE RELOCATION OF DECENT PEOPLE LOOKING FOR A BETTER LIFE CAME THE RISE OF THE HOMELESS OPPORTUNIST FOLLOWING THEM TO YET ANOTHER WARM, CLEAN CTY. NOW IT HAS A NOTICABLE HOMELESS PROBLEM AND THE HOMELESS ARE MORE AND MORE HOSTILE IN ATLANTA.
PHILADELPHIA: DEFECATION AND UNINATION IN THE PUBLIC FOUNTAINS THE FOUNTAINS HAD TO BE FENCED OFF.
CHICAGO: LOST CAUSE
LOS ANGELES: ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK, TRYING TO CLEAN UP SKID ROW AFTER MORE THAN 50 YEARS
HOLLYWOOD: EVERY KIND OF HUMAN PROBLEM IMAGINABLE
SAN FRANCISO: WOW WHAT A DISASTER MAKES HOLLYWOOD LOOK OK.
WASHINGTON: GRUNGE IS NOT JUST A STYLE IT’S A LIFE CHOICE.
OREGON VERY MUCH LIKE WASHINGTON STATE
WASHINGTON D.C. ANOTHER HUGE PROBLEM
FLORIDA: ATTRACTS BUMS BECAUSE OF THE GOOD WEATHER AND LARGE POPULATION.
BY THE WAY ADAM WALSH WAS ABDUCTED FROM FLORIDA BY HOMELESS BUMS, ONE OF THE WORST CRIMES ON RECORD.
DENVER: HOMELESS VIOLENCE AGAINST CITIZENS DANDEROUS ESPECIALLY FOR WOMEN.
THE ONLY PLACE I’VE BEEN THAT DOES NOT TOLORATE THIS BEHAVIOR IS MONACO NEAR ITALY AND THE SOUTH OF FRANCE IT’S ONLY REALLY CLEAN CITY I’VE SEEN. SHOULD I HAVE TO LEAVE MY OWN COUNTRY TO GET SOME PEACE? MAYBE.
NOT ONLY DON’T THEY CONTRIBUTE THEY:
1. ENDANGER OUR LIVES BY COMMITING AND BREEDING CRIME SPREADING DISEASE AND DRAWING VERMIN BY LITTERING.
2. LOWER PROPERTY VALUES
3. BUSINESSES LOOSE MILLIONS WHEN CUSTOMERS AVOID LOITERERS
4. CLOG UP THE COURT SYSTEM BY SUING WHEN WE COMPLAIN.
5. CLOG UP THE COURT SYSTEM WITH THEIR REPEATED OFFENCES, THEY HAVE STARTED HOMELESS COURTS TO EASE THE BURDON ON THE COURT SYSTEM.
6. DISTRACT THE POLICE. LAW ENFORCEMENT SHOULD BE DEALING WITH OTHER MATTERS.
8. CLOG UP THE SHELTERS BLOCKING PEOPLE THAT REALLY NEED HELP.
9. CLOG UP HOSPITALS WITH THEIR VARIOUS DRUNK AND DRUG PROBLEMS
10. CLOG UP THE SOCIAL SERVICES, ASKING FOR MONEY, FOOD STAMPS AND LOW INCOME SECTION 8 HOUSING THAT SHOULD BE AVIALABLE FOR DECENT POOR PEOPLE.
11. BOTHERING PEOPLE, BEGGING. RUINING OUR QUALITY OF LIFE
12. CLOG UP AND ABUSE THE SHELTERS, MISSIONS AND OTHER SO CALLED HELPFUL INSTITUTIONS.
13. SQUATING AT EVERY PUBLIC AND PRIVATE BUILDING AND SERVICE ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND AROUND THE WORLD.
FOR TO LONG BUMS HAVE MADE THEMSELVES AND US MISERABLE THEY HAVE RUINED OUR QUALITY OF LIFE IN SO MANY NEIGHBORHOODS ESPECIALLY BEACH AREAS, I’VE LOST COUNT.
SOME PEOPLE DON’T SEE THEM BUT SOME
PEOPLE HAVE BECOME SO FRUSTRATED WITH THIS PROBLEM, WE ARE BECOMING CRIMINALS TO LASH OUT AGAINST THEM. NORMAL WOMEN THAT HAVE BEEN HARRASSED ARE ON INTERNET FORUMS, PROPOSING EVERYTHING INCLUDING RUNNING THEIR CARS OVER SQUEEGY MEN TO JUST TO GET RID OF THEM. THESE PEOPLE WOULD NEVER HAVE VIOLENT THOUGHTS OR IDEAS IF IT WAS NOT FOR DRUNKS AND BUMS. THE CONSTANT VIOLATION OF OUR CIVIL RIGHTS BRINGS OUT THE WORST IN ALL OF US. WE ARE SINKING TO THEIR LEVEL.
A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT? THEY WANT THE TICKETING STOPPED.THE POLICE ARE BEING ASKED TO STOP DOING THEIR JOBS, PROTECTING TAX PAYERS FROM VIOLENT BUMS. HOMELESS DRUNKS AND DRUG ADDICTS HAVE BANNED TOGETHER IN A LAWSUIT DEMANDING THE RIGHT TO DEFECATE, UNINATE AND SLEEP IN THE STREETS. I HAVE EVEN SEEN PUBLIC SEX AMOUNG DRUNKS. OH BROTHER ….. SHOULD WE DEBATE WITH DRUNKS AND DRUG ADDICTS? CLEAR THINKING PEOPLE ARE NEEDED TO SOLVE THIS ISSUE
THE DRUGGED OUT BUMS ARE BEING OFFERED CLEAN NEEDLES. THE ADVOCATES WANT TO DRIVE VANS INTO FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS AND DRAW DRUG ADDITS FROM ALL OVER. ONCE AGAIN WE ARE SACRIFIED SO BUMS CAN BE SAVED.
THE LOGICAL ANSWER:
PHASE 1:INFORCE TO THE MAX THE EXISTING LAWS AND OUTLAW HANDOUTS, BEGGING, BOTHERING PEOPLE, MISSIONS, DETOX, BUM HOTELS AND ALL OTHER BUM RELATED INSTITUTIONS BUILDINGS.
REMOVAL OF ALL PUBLIC SERVICES, FOR DRUNKS DRUG ADDICTS WILL FORCE THEM CHANGE. IT’S THEM OR US.
“TOUGH LOVE” IT HAS WORKED IN CITIES THAT HAVE THE STRENGTH TO DO IT. NO ONE DIES WHEN THESE SERVICES ARE CUT OFF, AND A FEW YEARS AFTER WORKING, PEOPLE ADMIT IT WAS BETTER TO BE FORCED TO WORK THEY GAIN SELF RESPECT AND SAVE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO THEIR COMMUNITIES. CUT THEM OFF!
PHASE 2. THEY CAN NOT AFFORD TO LIVE IN THE EXPENSIVE CITIES THEY HAVE DECIDED TO SQUAT IN. THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO BE EMPLOYED DUE TO APPEARANCE, BODY ODOR AND BEHAVIOR. THEY HAVE NO FAMILY TIES AND NO REASON TO BE IN THE PLACES ARE. IN THE REAL WORLD WHEN A CITY BECOMES TO EXPENSIVE THE PEOPLE MOVE TO LESS EXPENSIVE LOCATIONS.
RELOCATE THEM TO FARMS MAKE THEM WORK FOR FOOD, SHELTER AND EDUCATION. NO MONEY !! EDUCATION WILL OFFER A WAY OFF THE FARM. I BELIEVE THIS IS A REASONABLE SOLUTION.
ANY NORMAL THINKING PERSON HOMELESS OR OTHERWISE SHOULD SEE THIS LETTER AS A FAIR ACCOUNT OF THE TRUTH. I LIVED IT AND AM STILL SUFFERING WITH THESE PEOPLE. THERE IS NO AMOUNT OF MONEY I CAN PAY TO ESCAPE THEM. WHERE EVER I GO THEY WILL BE THERE. THEY STAND IN FRONT OF BUILDINGS THAT HAVE 6 MILLION DOLLAR CONDOS IN THEM.
I AM INTERESTED IN JOINING, VOULNTEERING OR CONTRIBUTING TO ANY ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE AGAINST THIS GROUP.
I AM INTERESTED IN RUNNING A FULL PAGE AD IN ANY MAJOR NEWSPAPER.
ACCEPT THAT WE ALSO HAVE RIGHT TO DOMESTIC TRANQUILITY AND SEE THAT YOUR RIGHTS HAVE BEEN TRAMPLED OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
HOW YOU CAN HELP:
TOURIST STOP GIVING MONEY WE HAVE TO LIVE HERE.
LOCALS NEVER EVER GIVE MONEY TO ANY HOMELESS PERSON OR
HOMELESS ORGANIZATION CHURCH FUNDED OR OTHERWISE
OPPOSE ANY PUBLIC AND PRIVATE FOOD HANDOUTS
OPPOSE ANY DETOX CENTERS THEY DON’T WORK
OPPOSE HALFWAY HOUSES THEY DON’T WORK
OPPOSE MISSIONS THEY BREED CRIME AND BECOME AN INSTANT GHETTO
OPPOSE SHELTERS THEY BREED CRIME AND BECOME AN INSTANT GHETTO.
THESE INSTITUTIONS DON’T HELP AND BRING PROPERTY VALUES DOWN.
NO ONE WANTS THESE INSTITUTIONS YET WE KEEP HAVING THEM FORCED ON US. WHY?
MAKE SURE YOUR NOT GIVING TO CHARITIES THAT ENABLE HOMELESSNESS.
SAVE YOUR SYMPATHY AND CHARITY FOR PEOPLE WITH REAL ISSUES LIKE CANCER, CHRONIC DISEASE DISABILITIES, AND DISASTER VICTIMS.
HELP SENIORS THAT ARE NOT DRUNK AND ON DRUGS.
DO NOT HELP DRUNKWOMEN HIDING BEHIND ABUSED CHILDERN.
DO NOT HELP ABLE BODIED DRUNK DRUGGED OUT MEN, WOMEN OR TEENS.
MISSIONS SHOULD NOT FEEDING AND BEDDING DRUNKS IN PUBLIC OR PRIVATE FEEDING AND BEDDING BUMS ONLY GIVES THEM THE ENERGY TO DRINK AND START TROUBLE DAY AFTER DAY.
DO USE CAUTION IN DEALING WITH ANY STRANGERS REGARDLESS OF THEIR APPEARANCE. AVOID CONFRONTATION AND MAINTAIN YOUR DISTANCE FROM STRANGERS.
DO NOT PERMIT ANYONE TO CAMP OR LOITER ON YOUR PROPERTY. IF UNAUTHORIZED CAMPING OR LOITERING IS OCCURRING ON YOUR PROPERTY, CONTACT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ASK TO SIGN AN AUTHORIZATION FOR TRESPASSERS TO BE ARRESTED.
DO NOT ALLOW ANYONE TO STORE SHOPPING CARTS, BEDDING, OR PERSONAL BELONGINGS ON YOUR PROPERTY.
RESTRICT ACCESS TO OVERHANGS, ALCOVES OR OTHER AREAS PROTECTED FROM INCLEMENT WEATHER. LOCK OR REMOVE HANDLES FROM WATER SPIGOTS TO DISCOURAGE UNAUTHORIZED USE.
LOCK YOUR GARBAGE RECEPTACLES.
LOCK OR TURN OFF EXTERIOR POWER OUTLETS.
LOCK GATES AFTER HOURS
INSTALL EXTERIOR LIGHTING AND UTILIZE MOTION ACTIVATED FIXTURES AFTER HOURS.
TRIM BACK LANDSCAPING AND FOLIAGE TO ELIMINATE HIDING PLACES.
CLEAN UP GARBAGE AND WASTE.
REPORT GRAFFITI AND OTHER VANDALISM TO THE POLICE, AND CLEAN UP
PROMPTLY AFTER THE OFFICER HAS CONCLUDED THEIR INVESTIGATION.
DO NOT ALLOW FOOD AND BEVERAGE DELIVERIES TO SIT OUT UNATTENDED.
WELCOME TO OUR CITY PLEASE DON’T FEED THE ANIMALS KEEP YOUR SPARE CHANGE IN YOUR POCKET……. GIVING HURTS
Here's the tradeoff: imagine you have no social support, no one who'd notice if you're missing, and no cell phone. A stranger pulls up and asks you to get in his car for $20. Do you really think this is a wise decision?
This is exactly the kind of experience I've had personally.
When I was a kid (about 20 years ago now) I would often ride with my dad during the summers on trips around the country. My dad was a truck driver, hauling high-value products (art exhibits, massive computer systems, military aircraft prototypes, etc) and often the recipient was located in an urban area. Bums were a frequent source of labor, especially "lumpers" -- bums that hang around shipping docks looking for work loading and unloading trucks. Those that recognized my dad were eager to work for him; they knew he paid well. These weren't the sort of problem characters you're referring to, and not all of them were actually homeless -- these were people that wanted to work.
When there weren't any lumpers around though, my dad would drive around the local area looking for bums on street corners holding signs offering to work for food or money. He'd stop and talk to them, and NOT ONCE in the times I hung around my dad did any of them ever take him up on the offer. And we're talking $100 for 2-3 hours work; my dad said this was typical. We'd end up doing the work ourselves.
I'm a really liberal guy, getting more so as I get older. I'm an environmentalist, a supporter of animal rights and generally opposed to conservatives in this administration and beyond. But here is one place where my views lean to the right -- these people are a parasite on our society -- leeching tax money and spreading the disease of social decay.
I lived in DC and there were two guys who always were on a corner in Dupont Circle. I'd give them my spare change sometimes, until the day I realized that they lived in the same building as my boyfriend. A building that I couldn't afford to live in.
It is hard to tell who genuinely needs help. So now I save up my money for specific charities instead.
I blame the destruction of the state run mental health system that poured people out onto the streets during the Reagan administration.
Truthfully, some of these guys probably aren't physically capable of an hour of heavy labor. Some of them wouldn't want to get in a car with someone unknown, even if it were for a nice bit of money. I might be leery of that too.
Okay, enough of my liberal wishy-washy crap... the situation sucks and I have no real ideas for how to fix it.
Honestly, if we were to kill the vast majority of homeless folks, would anyone care? Would anyone out there really miss them, except for perhaps the CEOs of distilleries of cheap wine? Would the world be a worse place in ANY way if these people weren't here?
Maybe Jello Biafra was right.....
I work in retail. Every day, we have some bozo coming in trying to lift one of our goods. It's these same people I see day in and day out asking for hand outs. They can be quite aggressive if you refuse to give them what they want. Honestly, I think these people need to be removed from society until they are good and ready to actually contribute. I'm very unwilling to give them my hard-earned money just so they could insert heroin into their veins.
drbloggingon had some very valid points, but the obvious solution escaped her. It's like dandelions or crabgrass in your lawn. If you do nothing, it spreads. You do not try to live with it, you eradicate it. Likewise these vermin need forcibly rounded up and disposed of. If I were king for a day, they would all be made into pet food.
Living homeless is a lifestyle choice. Everyone in this country is free to succeed if they so choose. The losers choose not to succeed. Rewarding them for their poor choices is asinine. The absolute best thing that could happen to such a person is allowing him to hit his personal bottom and he aquires the Gift of Desparation, which will empower change.
Enabling homeless by giving them money for standing on a street corner only enables them to continue with their lifestyle and hurts them in the long run.
I've spent a bit of time in Peru and Chile. It's interesting to me that all the beggars there are women that can't find jobs.
Here it's almost always men.
I don't understand why.
After watching the report, all I can say about the last guy who didn't hesitate to hop in the truck and go to work is: Give that guy a full time job! He'd be perfect for a construction or landscaping job!
Sure, there are worthless bums who just want to leech off society, but this kid is willing to work! I'm very happy that the reporter made certain to emphasize that this kid, who's a recovering addict, didn't hesitate, did the work, and was thankful for it.
So anyone out there in Phoenix who wants to really do good for a homeless person who's actually out to better his situation, call up the station and track this kid down!
"I blame the destruction of the state run mental health system that poured people out onto the streets during the Reagan administration."
Truth is, people were upset that we institutionalized these folks. So, we de-institutionalized them. Now folks are upset that we de-institutiopnalized these folks. So now do we institutionalize them?
People try to point blame all of the time. It's high time America faces up to one fact that is apparent in society today: you can't blame everyone else for a problem that could be solved on your own. Blaming someone else is not helping, doing something about it is. It's the homeless peoples' fault for being homeless. No matter what, you can get cleaned up at a shelter and get a job in landscaping or something, just like the experiment attempted. Nobody owns up to their own shortcomings anymore, and it is disgusting.
I'm also in the DC area, and the panhandler that's been across the street from my office for as long as I can remember lives in my neighborhood. In fact he owns a house and drives a Lexus. If he doesn't drive the Lexus in to "work" we frequently ride the same metro train.
$20 an hour plus transportation time is simply not enough to maintain the lifestyle that he has become accustomed to.
I wondered one day, WHAT would it take to become homeless...you really have to mess up every relationship with every friend you have, relatives, etc. You have to be a COMPLETE moron..
thanks..
I lived downtown Nashville, TN for four years and we had quite a few panhandlers in the area. Evertime I was asked for a "buck to help get some food", I always offered to make them something to eat and bring it back down to them. In the four years I lived there I can count on one hand the number of times I was taken up on my offer.
Face it. Most homeless people are that way for a reason. They are a waste of space and oxygen. A while back I was on my way home from the grocery store and saw a homeless man holding a sign that said 'will work for food'. I stopped and offered him some supplies that he could make sandwiches with. (bread lunchmeat and cheese). He said' Why the F%$k would I want that!? I don't want that S$%t!'
They are homeless because they want a free ride. Here's an idea... Take one days worth of your begging proceeds and buy some decent clothes. Then go try to get an interview so you can get some real work. Quit begging from the rest of us hard working citizens.
I agree with Ran... the guy who was willing to do the work really did work his butt off! He deserved that $20 and more! I hope he can get his life together, because it looks like he is sincerely trying.
$20 an hour? I'm about to graduate from college and I know that it will take me MANY years to attain that salary (if ever).
Here in WI, we have problems with panhandlers on our downtown city streets. I can't count the number of times I have not given money and then have been called derogatory names. It's sad because the few people who really need help are not getting it because of these people.
I remember watching on TV about a beggar in NYC, circa early 1990's. He didn't have legs and rolled himself around on a cart with his hands. His spiel was that he was a Veitnam vet and lost his legs because of a landmine. And he looked the part of a beggar, dirty, ragged clothes, a real mess. He begged all day, every day all over NYC for years. I forget how much money he actually took in on an average day, but I believe it was about $200.
Just enough to own a nice house in a middle class neighborhood right across the river in NJ, and send his son to medical school. Which is what he did.
lol, what a scam.
I also remember a Mensa question put to it's members (you know Mensa, the genius people).
The question was something like, how should the homeless situation be solved in a permanent way?
Mensa members answered overwhelmingly.....kill them.
Wow, someone needs to learn the meaning of "CAPS LOCK". Poster may have a valid point, but after the first couple words I moved on to the next post.
Anyway, my story, lived in Austin, TX and had a Professor from the University spend his summer vacation begging on 6th st (Main street with all the bars that the college kids hang out at) and he ended up making more in his 3 months of begging than he did working 9 months as a professor. Go figure...
One radio talk show host did an experiment. He stood at a busy intersection with an empty bucket with a made up charity name on the front. He didn't have a popular face and people didn't recognize him.
The results: He said he averaged about $35 per hour for 6 hours. He ended up giving the money to a reputable charity.
John Stossel did this on 20/20 a couple of years ago. I think it was only $10/hr, + bus fare to and from the job. Only one guy showed was interested, and he backed out at the last minute.
There are a lot o myths out there about the homeless, such as Reagan put them all out there by closing mental hospitals, etc.
The truth is that there are a large number of people who have realized they can make good, untaxed money by begging.
The only way to stop it is to stop giving money to individuals. There are plenty of worthwhile charities out there that help the truly needy.
Just tell the panhandlers that you've donated money to charity so they have a hot meal and a bed for the night. The truly needy will be grateful. The scam artists will curse you.
I actually needed help working in my yard, loading and unloading dirt. I asked six people before I stopped asking - $10 an hour and food, all who had will work for food signs - none accepted.
My father, during his 60s, a WWII paratrooper made soup and sandwiches for the poor in Dallas for months before stopping because the food wasn't enough and they attacked him when he wouldn't give money or cigs.
I had a roomie who told me of his life in his cardboard condo after he quit a $50k Air Traffic Controller job (not laid off - quit) - he made great money in California then bought a car and came to Texas. After several months of living for free,he quit the job where we worked and left calling me a Capitalist for asking for the rent.
It's a lifestyle not a situation.
I tend to agree - don't give them money.
I lived in a town with a state mental hospital in the Reagan years. I can firmly say that the number of homeless and people panhandling strongly increased upon closure of the state hospital.
You can easily argue that essentially imprisoning people in a state hospital is bad; you can also argue that putting them out on the streets is bad. There obviously needs to be a compromise or a different solution. Obviously that solution is going to involve the use of the CAPS LOCK KEY.
60 percent of the homeless in downtown Los Angeles have one or all four of these problems.
1. Ex-offenders who get denied a job because of their record.
2. Have a drug addiction, and can't work, need the money to buy drugs.
3. Serious psychological
-Psychiatric issues that need extensive medication and therapies.
4. Hopeless and lazy. No self worth or self-esteem. They want it all on a platter without working for it.
Only and IF we fix all of these problems by addressing the needs and "requiring" mandatory medical/psych care, enrollment in a training program etc will we ever see a decrease in this population.
Homelessness has become a way of life for many. If they applied themselves things would be drastically different.
I do believe that panhandling does rack in lots of money and it is easier to ask than to work. That is the shame. Actually, maybe a Sham.
I can only focus on one segment of this population. Those convicted of a crime and.
We live in a very judgmental society. People will NOT help anyone anymore, and non-profits who get huge amounts of money from the government to do the job instead waste the money on many other things verses what it is meant for.
All of this faith Based hullabaloo is a scam. The government gives them money to help solve the problems and it is a waste. Proven fact: .10 of each dollar gets spent on what on services. The rest is on management salaries, office space, and the trappings of "looking" like you are working hard. It is all a bunch of bunk.
Anyway... enough said:
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feed the homeless to the hungry......problem solved
I went on a college trip to China with 3 other classmates a few years back. The situation with beggars is different there (many are people from rural areas who moved to the city to find work but then can't because they're there illegally). We wanted to help, but realized that giving money was a bad idea, so on the last night we finished off our trip allowance by grocery shopping and gave away bread, tinned meat, etc. A couple dozen people showed up when they heard about it, and I got to talk the little kids in my rudimentary mandarin. They were great.
So I'm in total agreement with those people who said 'offer them food' (or old clothes, or a hygiene kit, or whatever). Those who really need them will take them.
-xenobiologista
It's a sad situation to be homeless, alright. I can't imagine many worse things. But a lot of them seem to bring it on themselves. All credit to that kid who worked for his $20 and I think he should've recieved a little more, especially since he was on tv.
In my own experience, a friend of mine once bought a burger and a coffee for a homeless guy and his dog, and the guy seemed very genuine. He gave the meat from the burger to the dog and sat there munching the bread and drinking the tea. The homeless guy was very greatful.
I suppose there are good and bad in all types of people, just the bad seem to over ride the good most of the time.
These vermin could be eliminated if NO ONE would give them money. The only reason these scum do it is because it works. Every time you gives money to them you are reinforcing their behaviour.
I just don't understand why some of you absolute MORONS think that it is the burden of the successful to whitewash their own successes and take care of the poor. Why should they?
Work hard, educate yourself, stay off drugs, stay out of jail, get a great job, work even harder...all to what? Take your money and give it to someone who's been sleeping for the past 10 years? Why? Who is this benefiting?
I refused to 'donate' to a downtown bum's 'cause' once, and guess what?-I got the cold stares from my girlfriend over it. When I tried to tell her it was a conjob, she got even more offended, as if I'd called her stupid...which I believe she really is.
"Obviously that solution is going to involve the use of the CAPS LOCK KEY." ROTFLMAO!!!
An observation: one of the most "intelligent" people I ever met happened to be a homeless guy who always wore a blue denim shirt and "lived" in San Diego's Balboa Park for several months, about 10 years ago. His name was "Dave"--if I recall correctly--and I swear this guy had to have at one time been a highschool math teacher or undergrad professor based on the math concepts we'd discuss and he'd try to teach me. I'll never understand how a man of his intellectual caliber could be homeless. I imagined maybe he'd just gotten out of prison for some white-collar crime and couldn't land a decent job anywhere--but that's pure wild speculation. I never did get around to asking him, and I never did see him again when I returned from Stanford. But it totally changed my view of homeless people. Some of them out there could very well be some of the most capable people--yet out there they remain. Why? WHY?! It drives me nuts if I try to understand the reason.
As I'm typing this, there are a pair of homeless, and I hesitate to call them this, people on the lawn outside of the apartment where my wife and I live.
Now, I was raised in a manner that taught me that you try and deal with everybody with a modicum of basic decency, and I do. However, the homeless people in this neighborhood (which is a pseudo artsy, low income hippy haven, it irks me as I have no sociopolitical affiliations and have no desire to be part of their "community", we're only here because the rent is $395 a month) have no basic respect or decency and conduct themselves accordingly.
The two that are out front right now are both so drunk that they can't stand up, and there is an alcohol detox center less than a hundred feet from where they're currently passing out.
They're argumentative, rude, obnoxious, ungrateful and somewhat of a hazard as there are a number of small children that live around here and these people are drunk in public, with open containers, sometimes shooting up, urinating and defecating on the property, all where a small child has a reasonable chance of witnessing this behaviour.
Granted, some people who are homeless genuinely want to better their situation, and there are quite a few like that where I live, the majority that I see on a regular basis, and I see a lot, are like the two out front of my place right now.
They don't care about themselves, they show no respect towards anyone or anything, save for the beer they currently happen to be swilling. They've no interest at all in getting out of their situation and they deserve no compassion, sympathy or help.
This is a problem that no amount of charity will ever do anything to help, history bears this out as do the facts of your own eyes. The homeless are still homeless and their numbers aren't decreasing as would be expected if all of the charities that worked so hard to help them had even an inkling of success.
And the police are just about useless as far as this goes.
Not more than an hour ago, my wife and I left the apartment to walk to the grocery store where she works. As we were passing by the vagrants on the lawn, a Eugene Police Department patrol car rolled by with two officers in it.
Keep in mind that the vagrants in question are no more than five feet from the street and are visibly intoxicated with open containers of alcohol.
What do you think the police did?
Nothing.
Just drove by at a reasonable rate of speed.
The cops weren't on their way to an emergency as evidenced by the lack of any sort of urgency on their part, and the vagrants in question were obviously violating at least 2 laws here in Lane County.
Before you tell me that we should report these people to the police, let me assure that we have on numerous occasions, as have at least two other residents of this apartment building.
This problem has been ongoing over the last 3 months and there's no sort of resolution in sight.
According to the police department here, the vagrants in question were kicked out of the park across the street from where we live, and that is the reason they have taken up squattership on the front lawn.
Wow, I guess I needed to vent about that.
the person who left a comment "I know a person in Toronto who did that, his name is asif zamir"; this person works for a church..but he steals money from people so that he can give it away? he has stolen thousands of dollars from people and he goes online and says that he donates a lot of money?? who does he think he is? robin hood? or robbing hood?
The FAKE homeless are everywhere in Chicago.
I say there FAKE, because I see it everyday. They
are there because people think they are doing some good for these Drunk or Drugged out Bums, by giving them a few bucks. But in FACT they make a lot more money then most of us. They are organized in some parts of the city. They go to work (Easy Work) in there eyes. Think about it if you ask 100 people in one hour for some money, you will get at least 20 of them to give you a buck, well thats 20.00 HR. for standing and looking like crap.
So I say don't bother, give your money to your church or to the red cross or even to the Blind.
I recently had an experience with a bum that left me dumbfounded.
Many are career bums by choice not circumstance. You can't pay a man to work that doesn't want to work.
Against good judgement I took one in to help him get on his feet. It never happened. As far as I know he is on someone else's couch right now. When I told him the jig was up and to leave he verbally assaulted me.
I think Mensa was right. Short of killing the parasites there is no answer to homelessness.
I never give them money. I work to hard for the little I make.
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